The Discover Tenkara Karasu 360 and 400 were designed by Paul Gaskell
and John Pearson to be the best tenkara rods you can own. Unlike most
of the rods offered by Western companies, the Karasu rods are made
Paul and John became tired of what they called the “watered-down” tenkara. The methods in the West and equipment (at least in the UK) did not deliver the same exhilaration that they found in the best of Japanese tenkara. They also became tired of the reject rate for the Chinese-manufactured rods that they had carried before.
From the Discover Tenkara website: A truly great tenkara rod is the result of correctly balancing the following vital performance factors:
On top of making the right choices to balance those forces, an exceptional tenkara rod must also:
It is only because of the incredible advances in carbon fiber cloth technology and unparalleled Japanese manufacturing excellence that the Karasu can meet these demands with a rod that will:
Paul and John drew from their extensive contacts within the Japanese tenkara community. The direct testing and feedback they received - and also the dramatic increase in their own tenkara abilities - resulted in a list of demands for what it would take for a tenkara rod to be considered truly exceptional.
That list of demands meant they could not get their rod manufactured in China. They needed to find a specialized Japanese manufacturer for their rod - not an easy task, but one which meant every component is personally checked as it is produced.
It also meant that the price would not be comparable to Chinese-made rods. I have never sourced rods in China, but Paul and John say their production costs are three to six times what others pay Chinese manufacturers for their rods.
Quality costs money. Paul and John did not set out to make the cheapest rod. They set out to make the best rod.
I fully recognize that asking people to pay over $400 for a rod that virtually no one outside of Japan has yet seen is asking for a leap of faith. All I can do is ask you to have faith in Paul and John. They have fished with a lot of the most experienced tenkara anglers in Japan, and have gradually determined what they wanted in a tenkara rod.
They have produced a rod that a lot of people are going to like.
It is not quite like any other rod.
If you have been lucky enough to fish with a lot of rods, you might get a sense of the Karasu 360 when I say start with a TenkaraBum 36, add a little Nissin Zerosum 7:3, throw in a fair amount of a Tanuki 375 and maybe a pinch of Oni I. The rod defies a 6:4 or 7:3 label. I would not use those terms, which are misleading at best.
The Karasu 360 has a firmer midsection than most tenkara rods, and a slightly softer tip. That may sound quite a lot like a TenkaraBum 36, but I don't think it is quite as fast as the TenkaraBum 36. I was quite surprised when I did the penny measurement. I was confident that it would have a substantially higher penny rating than the TenkaraBum 36, yet it came in 1/2 cent lower. I think the longer, thicker grip, together with the higher overall weight give the Kurasu the feel of a beefier rod. A very sensitive beefier rod, to be sure, but a beefier rod nonetheless.
John and Paul wanted the rod to cast a very light line, and were drawn to the size 3 nylon line that some Japanese anglers use when they want the most delicate presentation (reserved for still days only!). However, the rods the Japanese anglers use for the size 3 nylon are quite soft, making it hard to get good hook sets. The softer tip sections of the Karasu allow it to cast the light line, but the firmer midsection allows good hook sets.
You can indeed cast a very light line with the Karasu 360, which many of the premium Japanese rods from Daiwa, Shimano and Nissin will do also. You can indeed get good hook sets, which some of the premium Daiwa rods will give you, but not the same ones that can easily cast a light line! The new Discover Tenkara Karasu 360 gives you both. I do like the way it casts!
The Karasu 400 is like the Karasu 360 only more so - much more so! I had thought the Karasu 360 felt more substantial than the TenkaraBum 36. The Karasu 400 feels much more substantial than the TenkaraBum 40.
I took the Karasu 400 to a stream in Pennsylvania that has some big fish. The guy I was fishing with started the day with his Daiwa Enshou LT39SF - which is a premium rod by any account. After hooking (but not netting) about 6 very impressive fish, the guy said "the fish are too big." I let him use the Karasu 400 and he pretty quickly put two fish in the net.
When I asked him how he would describe the Karasu 400, he said it's a big fish rod. He was impressed with the leverage - which is the result of the firmer midsection relative to many 400 length tenkara rods.
I had thought the Karasu 360 would show a higher penny rating than the TenkaraBum 36 and was surprised when it didn't. The Karasu 400 held no surprise in that regard. It feels firmer and it is, measuring 21 pennies.
There are tenkara rods that have higher penny ratings, most notably the Daiwa Enshou LT and Expert LT rods, but they will not give you the light line capability.
The only thing I can think of that people might complain about is that the rod is not light at 3.4 ounces (without the tip plug). Others, though, would say the overall weight is not nearly as important as the balance and how the rod feels in the hand. As with the 360, I suspect a lot of the weight compared to other 400 length rods is in the grip, which actually brings the center of gravity closer to the your hand - particularly if you grip the rod on the front hump of the two hump "camel" grip.
The Karasu grip is hard foam, which I truly believe will be the grip of choice for more and more rods in the future. Seriously, even poor quality cork is expensive, and it is much better for the money to go into the blank than into the grip.
The grip is longer and fatter than the TenkaraBum 36 and 40 grips (which addresses the only two complaints I have gotten about the TenkaraBum grips). It has the common "two hump" shape, but the shaping is very subtle.
The graphic design is subtle as well, and continues the crow theme. The blank is a dark gray, fading
to black at the joints, which have just a narrow silver ring as a
The name, just above the grip, says "Karasu" in Japanese and English on one side, with the Discover Tenkara logo and Made in Japan on the other.
The Tip Plug is plastic, and will be familiar to tenkara anglers who have a seiryu rod, a TenkaraBum 36 or 40, or a Shimotsuke Ten or Mai. The Grip Screw Cap is metal, is knurled for easy tightening and removal, and has a hole for ventilation. It will be very familiar to anglers who have a Nissin Air Stage Fujiryu tenkara rod.
As could be expected on a Japanese-made rod, the lillian glue joint is perfect and will pass through the #2 section easily.
Length extended - 13'4"
Length collapsed - 22 1/4"
Weight without tip plug - 3.4 oz
Grip - Shaped EVA foam
Sections - 9
Tippet - 6X recommended, no more than 5X (5lb breaking strength)
Pennies - 21
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|Just wanted to give an update on the Karasu 360 I purchased at the Jam.
Pros: Casting - throws a tight loop with #2.5 and #3 lines that I tested, both the length of the rod and with 3ft of tippet. The fly landed exactly where I wanted even when casting sidearm under obstructions. Performing a "figure 8" false cast in tight quarters was easy.
Dampening - I liked the fact that the tip didn't rebound while casting, likely improving accuracy as well.
Quality - definitely a quality build. I was initially a bit skeptical of the handle but it works quite well.
Cons: A bit overkill on small wild fish up to 8-9". It was so accurate that it made catching them in impossible places seem easy though.
Summary: Is it worth the cost? I have to say yes. The development process to achieve the result of such a fantastic casting rod increased its worth, at least in my opinion. If your budget supports the expense you will not be disappointed.
Bryan T, North Carolina
|Just wanted to say thanks for letting me have the privilege of trying out your new line of rods. The Karasu definitely is a top-notch rod. I haven't fished too much with any rod other than Rinfu the last decade or so but it was a very easy transition, which means the Karasu rods cast light lines very well, and it actually allowed me to cast very well sideways. Something Rinfu's not very good at and proves the Karasu rods are built right with high quality carbon.
Go Ishii, Japan
|The  rod feels substantial in the hand. It's not heavy by any means, but it feels solid, substantial, robust. The rod has wonderful balance in all positions.
The rod casts very smoothly. There is no overshoot even when the casting stroke is forced, and tip recovery is very quick. I can't perceive any oscillation. I fished the rod with a #2.5 fluorocarbon level line of 300 cm. I added 90 cm (3') of tippet to this making the line a little longer than the rod. The rod cast the #2.5 line effortlessly and I could easily place the fly first onto the water with every cast.
I fished the rod on a small mountain stream of moderately high gradient. I fished a #10 wool bodied sakasa kebari and small dry flies. I caught trout in the 8-14 inch range. The rod performed perfectly.
Tom D, Idaho
|This [the 360] is a premium rod. It’s not for everyone. Some will see the value in having a highly-crafted Japanese made rod, and others will be just as content with a $150 Chinese made rod. Personally, I don’t care where a rod is manufactured. But I do care about action, quality, and design. And with the Karasu, you will certainly not be disappointed with your investment.
•The tip recovery is excellent and allows you make very precise casts. It doesn’t flounder like some other rods that jerk your line around.
•It’s able to cast very light lines with ease (think #2.5 fluorocarbon lines). The makers say it will also cast nylon lines but I haven’t tried them because I’m mostly a fluorocarbon guy.
•It just feels light in the hand.
•It’s intuitive. It does what you want it to do and turns the line over almost effortlessly without thinking about it too much. And if you make a mistake in your cast, the rod almost seems to correct it and lay it out there anyway.
To me, the Karasu represents a pinnacle we need in order to keep the sport fresh and keep pushing the limits of the range. Otherwise, we’re always going to be stuck in mediocrity. And how can a niche evolve that way?
Jason K, Colorado